Exclusive: Why Nigeria must go into semi conductor - Shehu Tijjani

Thu, Oct 17, 2024
By editor
33 MIN READ

Interview, Oil & Gas

SHEHU Tijjani, founder of Amal Technology Limited, tells a captivating story of how the Nigerian Content Development and Monitoring Board, NCDMB, through a very rigorous process propelled his company into producing many first-in-Africa technology gadgets, including gas leak detector, POS, electricity meter, telephone charger among others.

Tijjani, who described himself as a research and development engineer, in an interview with Maureen Chigbo, publisher/editor of Realnews in his office in Abuja in April, reveals the new frontiers for diversifying Nigeria’s economy and the importance of production of semiconductor, which is being sought after as the new cash cow for the world.

The interview is quite revealing, captivating and a must read.

Excerpts.

Realnews: Can you give an overview of the Amal Technology project in partnership with the NCDMB?

Tijjani: I am the founder of Amal Technology Limited and it is a partnership between the company and the Nigerian Content Development and Monitoring Board. Actually, the company was found under the NCDMB R&D incubation process. It was founded in 2018 and I remember in 2018, I reached out to the NCDMB. I sent in a proposal that some of these gas leak detectors that are being imported into Nigeria can actually be localized, that means they can be produced locally.

So this is an idea and they loved that idea because they are local content and they saw something that is going to add value to our local content and so they were like oh, come in for presentation.

So I went and presented the technology to them. In a nutshell, we went through the R&D incubation process. Amal Tech was like the first baby of the R&D department of the NCDMB. It started in 2018, but we didn’t get approval until like three years after because it was a rigorous process you know there are stages in incubating a company. You have to do proof of concept, then after getting a certain approval, we now did like a pilot test of the product. We did like 100 pieces. It was financed by NCDMB, I think it was about N3.6 million or thereabout for the 100 pieces that we did back then in 2020.

Realnews: Which product was this?

Tijjani: This is the gas leak detectors, the main product; this was the flagship product. So we did a field trial and what NCDMB did was that they sent out the products to all the oil and gas industry to give them a feedback, the Standard Organization of Nigeria was there, DPR, NNPC, stakeholders in the oil and gas. They sent out this product and said look, we want you to test, this is what we want to do, I still have some of the copies of the letter they sent out. It was a  long process because you know NCDMB is not just like your…;?   I call them (I am not being sentimental). NCDMB is not like government people, the staff work professionally. The process was rigorous. I mentioned that during the commission of the factory. I told them that I thought this people hated me because the process was so tough. You know, it took years before they said now we are in. They did the research, consulted with different consultants, and appraised the proposal even though they have tested the product: we produced the product together. We did a field trial, which is the standard anywhere in the world. This organizations, including government officials sent them the report, saying look this product is really good. Some gave them a go ahead that look this is something that you need to pursue. We have a Department of Petroleum Resources, DPR, approval for it stating this product is the first of its kind, (that is a local product that was approved by the DPR) that was in 2019 right.  So we went through all this processes and the next stage after the field trial, after gathering all those reports is to commercialize it. So if you want to commercialize a product and you say you want to do local content that means you want to set up a factory to produce that. So after the ministerial approval and they said it was going to be a partnership, a 60/40 partnership. As part of our own equity, aside the IP, it is the structure you are seeing now. (The whole building, the construction and what have you). In a nutshell, that is how the partnership came about, and we signed them in 2021 and the project started in 2022, and by the end of that 2022, it was completed. We wanted to commission it earlier in 2023, but because of the election and everything we could not commission the factory earlier. Last year, it was now moved to end of 2023, which infact I think we got this minister’s approval. I mean they sent a letter to him to commission the factory when the new management came on board.

Realnews: Was it the minister who inaugurated the factory?

Tijjani: Yes, but he didn’t come. He was highly represented because they changed the date for more than three times. So other stakeholders that were supposed to come couldn’t come in. But the minister of solid minerals came. He was the one who jointly inaugurated it with the minister of petroleum. We had the minister of youths also and other stakeholders from the NNPC, DPR, DPP, many government officials graced the event. Amal Technology is the first of its kind in the entire sub-Saharan Africa. You are a journalist, you can do your research and I am going to show you around the production line and you will totally agree with me with this bold statement that I just made. A lot of partners even people outside, they come to Nigeria, they come to this factory and they are impressed with what they see. One of these organizations is the African Petroleum Producers Organisation, APPO, which is like OPEC. They were here and they were impressed with what they saw and they said: look we want to partner with you. Just imagine APPO saying they want to partner with us. They want to do what is called technology transfer to other Africa countries. This is a big win for the NCDMB and they were really proud. Another organisation that actually came here was the African Organisation for Standardisation, ASTRO, (you know, the African body of the SON). They came here with about 10 African countries represented; South Africa, Kenya, etc. They came and were impressed with what they saw. They were really shocked, in the entire Nigeria, SON can only take ASTRO to two companies. Because of what we have been doing here, we have been practical in what we are doing here. We don’t believe in making noise, doing media propaganda, I have seen a lot of media propaganda and at the end of the day there are no substance. So we have substance, but we don’t do media propaganda. We believe if we are doing it right, the news will definitely get out there. When people come here and see what we have, then they are like is it a Nigerian doing this? Just yesterday, a security agency came here, (I don’t want to mention names) and they were like oh, we just have to support this company. So in a nutshell, Amal Technologies was founded to produce this product, this large product.

Realnews: So what happened to the 100 that were produced?

Tijjani: The 100 are called field trial process. You know, before you can reroute a product for a start-up, you want to test it and see what people say in terms of standardization, the acceptability and everything. So when we roll out these 100 pieces to all those organizations they tested them and gave a positive feedback and all agreed that this product needs to be commercialized. So what the product does is that it detects the early signs of gas leakages, you can see what is happening in Lagos, Abuja, the threats of fire explosion. So this device helps in terms of preventing fire outbreaks. If there is a gas leakages in your kitchen or anywhere, it detects the early signs of it. It will send you an SMS. It will also call your mobile phone, while there is a bolder in it that will sound so that people at home can hear and it allows you to register up to two numbers in case you don’t get it another person can.

Realnews: So the product is not just for industry, it is also for domestic use?

Tijjani: I will come to the industry as well, but this one is for domestic use. It is actually a three-in-one device that can detect smoke as well. There are smoke detectors separately and they are not as smart as this because with this you receive an SMS, you receive a call and also I am sure you must have maybe one or two WiFi repeaters in your home. This device can be used as WiFi repeater. If, for instance, in your office, in your home, you have a router and it cannot reach the end. All you need to do is buy this device, connect it to your WiFi repeater, it will give you another 50-metre range of connectivity. So till now as I am talking to you it is the first of its kind in the world. Do your research and you will confirm it.

This device also works with another product called smart valve. So if you want to use this in your kitchen, you will install it near your gas burner and then you install the smart valve on top the gas cylinder so that if there is a gas leakage, this guy here picks the early signs of that, while sending you an SMS that madam you have a gas leakage. It already communicated with your smart valve which is going to shut off the valve of your gas cylinder.

Realnews: Really?

Tijjani: Absolutely! As I talk to you now, this device is in the US. It is in Kenya. It is in Chad, It is in Uganda, it is in Ghana. Because when those organizations that I mentioned came, they all bought it. As you are now, I am sure you wouldn’t want to leave here without having one of these devices because it is a 3 in 1 device, one close to you there for the industrial gas detector. Do you know how much millions of dollars that the government and organisations spend to bring in these? For instance, the AKK project, the Ajaokuta to Kano project; it is a gas line project and there is no way you can have those kind of projects without needing to import millions of Naira worth of these products. But now a company in Nigeria in partnership with the NCDMB is telling you we can now localise this product. Do you know what that means, it means three things, one, there is this added value, secondly, there is local content, lastly there is the issue of forex. You are totally going to eliminate forex and again, if you look at it business wise, we are talking about the turnaround production time, and if there are issues, you can easily come to the factory. I will give you one example like some security outfits they have some devices that they have to rely on their partners to come and help them fix it and stuff like that.

These are things that Amal Technologies was able to help them fix. This translates to two things, eliminating capital flight and secondly, easy accessibility to the technology. So now, this is for the industrial gas leak detector. We are yet to roll out this because product commercialization takes time, but by the end of the year, we will start the roll out. As you can see, it is available. So right now, Amal Technologies is already in operation. We have this product in thousands in stock right now.

Realnews: Do you have technical partners?

Tijjani: No. It is a local technology, 100% local content.

Realnews: So how did you get started?

Tijjani: I am an engineer, electronic and embedded engineer. I mentioned from the beginning that this company was founded under the NCDMB R&D incubation process. It took us five years to be able to roll out this finished product. Five years! The first prototype started in 2018, I will show you the video how it started. So we grew together and this also helped the NCDMB to grow the R&D department because it is a new department and they were using that also to learn.

I remember in 2020 after two years of different processes I presented it to the R&D Council. The NCDMB R&D Council has other government organizations that are part of the Council and they approved that. After the approval before the NCDMB management approved it. When I say the process was rigorous believe me, it was. They now took it to their corporate council which now approved the partnership. So this product was built under that process and there is nothing like foreign partners. We believe in ourselves. We are researchers. The company was founded under the NCDMB Research and Development. When you are talking about research and development, it means you are going to make some mistakes, develop from that, you realize your mistakes.

That is why the product is unique. That is why I tell you to check, you will see it is the first of its kind in the entire world. This smart gas leak detector (three in one device) detects smoke, gas and also a WiFi extender all embedded in one products. And each product of this, has a specific price for it, you can check. I’ll leave that for you to see, how much is a smoke detector or gas detector and they are not even smart and you’ll be shocked how much are the prices. For instance, WiFi repeater was sold before this dollar issue, I think it was like N45/50 thousand.

So back to your question, we do not have any foreign partners, the only partners we have are just the suppliers of the equipment. We told them this is what we want, and they produce our equipment and they will ship it to us and they would come and set it up in partnership with us. We set it up together with them. They did the training. And that’s it. We have the maintenance and the team that maintains the equipment and that’s it.

Realnews: As somebody who has gone through this process, how do you see the minister’s statement that the investment NCDMB made in the kind of project you have is wasted?

Tijjani: Actually, what I would say from what I know, I’m using AMAL as example, believe me I just told you this factory, you can do your research, is the first of its kind in  sub-Sahara Africa. Do you know what that means, our tech has the capability and the capacity to produce products end to end, that means from designing, chemicals, producing the board, assembling it, designing and closure and finished products, which you are going to see those lines now. So that capability and capacity allow us to see this other products that you are not even aware of, these are electric meters (this is three phase, this is single phase) our price is the lowest in the entire market. That capability allows us to be able to produce cable meters, meaning we will be able to bridge the gap of metering in Nigeria. No one has in the entire of Africa the capacity to produce the volume of meters that we can produce. I’ll tell you this secret, a lot of people import 98% imports PCBA from China and they just couple it, calibrate it and they call themselves manufacturers. But what AMAL technology does is to produce from nothing to something. So now the processes you’re going to see here, they skip all those processes and import it while we start from scratch to produce that. Why are we able to do that, because of the capacity the capability we have, thanks to the NCDMB. Are you going to say that is a waste? Do you understand that doesn’t stop there, as I’m talking to you infact, the meter, the presidential metering initiative were here, they confirmed that they have gone to all meter factories in Nigeria, but they have never seen the kind of equipment they saw here and these are the equipment that NCDMB invested in as part of our partnership. Do you understand? Thanks to the NCDMB partnership because it allows us to get the start of the heart equipment, equipment that can, with our knowledge, our technical know-how, we create magic. That is why you see that our slogan is (we bring your ideas to light) because part of what we do here is that we do reverse engineering. We do white labeling for companies. We have a lot of companies that want to scale up, but they don’t even know how to scale up. I wish you came yesterday, you’d have seen when we are producing. We had meetings with some other companies. They want to scale up their start-ups instead of then going to China. They say we have a product. How can you help us to scale up? We’d look at it and say based on our experience, we’d help you scale up this and this, and this is what it will cost you to do that. And now we’d tell them how to scale up that product.

They’d want to produce thousands of that product thanks to NCDMB. So I can tell in Nigeria, there’s no big company in terms of meter manufacturing as AMAL Technology is.

AMAL Tech was not set up to produce meter, because of the knowledge, the capability of what we have here allows us to be able to do that. Are you getting my point?

Realnews: So you started with this gas leak detector and you have now moved to meter production. And it is the NCDMB investment that helped you?

Tijjani: Absolutely.

Realnews: So for somebody to say that the investment was a waste shows lack of knowledge.?

Tijjani: Exactly. Maybe, he didn’t know. No one has ever stepped his foot here and remain the same.

I mean when you come in, you’ll be impressed with what you see. Another thing we have produced is this. (raises an object). Can you guess what this is?

Realnews: No, what’s that?

Tijjani: It is beautiful

Realnews: It is. I wonder what it is?

Tijani: So, this is a POS.

Realnews: Point of sales?

Tijjani: Yes.

Realnews: You are producing ATM too?

Tijani: Absolutely. In the entire of Africa, no one has ever attempted to even produce a POS.       

Realnews: Seriously?

Tijjani: Yes. You can look it up. And do you know what this POS does? It accepts payment offline. Do you know why we produced this? During the cashless policy, people were finding it difficult to do transactions. One of those big companies reached out to us and said: you guys said you can literally produce any electronic product, why can’t you produce a POS. We told them that if we are going to produce a POS, we just don’t wake up and produce a product for the sake of a product. We want to be able to add value. We like to bring in the local content. So, I told them that if we are going to do that, being the leader of the R& D department. I said I will like a product that is unique and that will add value to the lives of people. You know that network was a big issue in Nigeria that is why we came about a POS that can accept payment offline.

Realnews: That’s interesting. Is it in the market?

Tijjani: Already, some people are buying them, including big companies, discos, banks.

Realnews : How does POS that accept payment offline work?

Tijjani: It accepts payment as tap and go. You can even try your card. You will see that it will detect your card. Yes, it can read it. So we are able to produce this as well.

Realnews: Is the commercial quantity right?

Tijjani: Absolutely. That is another product line. How many products have I mentioned now?

Four. Plus the smart valve. That is five products actually. Another one is a charger that was designed, produced 100% in this facility. Who is producing charger in the entire Africa, nobody.

Is this a waste? If you come here tomorrow, you know, we schedule our production from Mondays, Wednesdays, Fridays. If you come in here tomorrow you will see it’s like a market.

That’s why I wish you’d come in yesterday to see the production line and how it is busy. Do youn Know how many people are working here already?

Realnews: How many?

Tijjani: Now we have about 50 people working here and now there is an order coming which means scaling up. We will have like 70 and maximum capacity of workers is like 300. Is that a waste? You can see the direct jobs that we have created, you can see the value. Do you know how many discos are rushing to us to sign a partnership with us? Do you know how many companies that are coming to us for meters because they saw materials on ground? They saw that these guys can literally produce meters immediately. The new Geometric Power in Abia want to produce meters. They reached out to us as well to produce for them. They didn’t go to China any more. So now even if it is the meter alone, do you know how much the company can generate on meters? We’re talking about over 100 million. I want to show you some MoU’s from the big banks and their subsidiaries. UBA, Stanbic, etc, some discos; Kaduna Discos there are already waiting for orders for this POS. The former Deputy Governor of the Central Bank of Nigeria, Kingsley Obiora, a very nice gentleman, just before he was removed, he came in here and was shocked. He came here with his entire team. (Shows Realnews photos of APPO Secretary General’s visit to the factory. Also displayed the deputy governor’s visit).

Realnews: That is interesting. So what is the future of Amal Technologies?

Tijjani: The future of Amal Technology is going into semi-conductor.

Realnews: And what’s that?

Tijjani: Semi-conductor is the magic or the soul behind literally any product you are seeing in the world right now. I think you should read about the war between China and US. It is all about semi-conductor. You know while Nigeria is still struggling with our oil, fossil fuels and all, the developed nations have moved away from that and are already fighting over semi-conductors. I will tell you what a semi-conductor is. Without semi-conductor you cannot do what you are doing right now, without it you can’t have these gadgets. You can’t come with your car, even those coffee maker that you have in your hotels rooms, they are all semi-conductors. Semi conductors power all these products. They are the chips. They are micro electronics which power everything in our everyday life. All those powerful watches and everything are semi-conductors.

So Nigeria is struggling with its economy and what she needs to do is to also diversify and go into semi-conductors. That is the only way we can be liberated from this dollar issue. Because the day the government makes a pronouncement that we are going into semi-conductors that is the day you will start seeing investments flow into Nigeria naturally, and you will start seeing grants in dollars why, because Nigeria is strategically positioned to play a middle ground in the semi-conductors industry. I can tell you from our research that Nigeria has the end to end raw materials to produce semi-conductors. Actually semi-conductors mostly start from these germanium and stuff like that and these are things that we have in abundance and nobody even talks about it, they don’t even know. You know, many people come here and say Amal should be given billions of dollars to work with.

Other countries that’s what they are doing. (Shows the interviewer a semi-conductor and a chip). So Amal Tech has every other thing it needs to produce, but Amal Tech still imports these chips which can be produced in Nigeria, but it requires hundreds of billions of dollars in investments. It requires that because that is the way to go. ##As of last year, the value of a semi-conductor was five hundred and fifty million dollars. By 2027 or 2030, the market will grow to 1 million dollars, and Nigeria is not doing anything and we are strategically positioned to be able to play a role in that industry which is going to help our economy. Back to my point, (demonstrates from his laptop): This is where Amal Technologies is, right now. So Amal Tech takes this from other countries and then produce products like this… You can see, these areqq cameras, laptops, TV’s, Solar Panels, basic things…

Realnews: So once you have a semi-conductor you can produce these?

Tijjani: We are already producing these. We just buy the others from outside. Our main goal is to see that we have a complete supply chain in Nigeria because with that, two things will happen.

We will crash the dollar. We are going to add value by creating employment, increase our GDP, and then export to generate forex for Nigeria. We have these guys here, why can’t we just create this thing, partner with these guys here, process this thing to this… (demonstrates what he means… because if you produce this, you can export this and generate Forex for the country).

When you are doing this, two things are happening, you are adding value by employing people, taking the youths off the road, producing this and exporting this. We can compete because we have cheap labour. What China has is skilled labour. We are working to see how we can have that skilled development and that is why we are looking to partner with other government agencies, universities. We have a lot of professors who have come here. We are working to see how we can change our curriculum to really match and align with what is going on right now. We have a lot of engineers who don’t know how production happens. Some people have not seen how these things can be produced. Theoretically, they have the PhD. It shouldn’t be like that. You know the funny thing, this stage that we are is the same stage that Apple was and still is because Apple, their chip has been produced in Taiwan and the bolts are assembled in China. No country in the world is able to do the 100%. Just like how cars are being produced, you will see, for example, I was reading about ASML, a company in Netherlands and they are number one in the entire world in terms of these chips because they produce equipment that produce advanced chips. They are the biggest Tech company in Europe and that company is controlled by the US and when they sanction them, they tell them not to sell those equipment to the Chinese. So they produce equipment that does lithography, this is the process in semi-conductor. What I am trying to say is that the ASML has the advanced machines to produce chips and all the top companies you know in the world, Intel, DSMC, they go to them to buy those equipment and now produce those chips. So even with all their technological advancement, they still get some of their parts from Germany. That is how productions work. ST.     But Shehu Tijani is telling you that with the right policy, with the right support from our government, Nigeria can actually achieve 100% local content because we are fit, we have all the raw materials, all we need to do is to have a strategic partnership with all these people. They come into Nigeria with government incentives and waivers, they will come in with their money, and we will be able to set this up. We can put the designing maybe in Lagos, for instance; put fabrication in South East; put testing, packaging and assembling in the north. That is how it is done.

Realnews: Is this semiconductors different from the AI that everyone is talking about right now?

Tijjani: Semi conductors power AI. Without semi conductors there is nothing like AI. AI is artificial Intelligence right, so now you produce chips that enable artificial Intelligence. I know where you are going to because that is where the government is talking about and that is why all these things are not impactful because they are not being addressed from the scratch. What the government is supposed to do is that we need something tangible in terms of training on manufacturing and that is where people are really going to feel the impact, set up trainings for manufacturing. All the countries that we are copying, that we are following their steps in terms of artificial intelligence already have semi conductors. Why can’t Nigeria go into that? Is it China, India, they are already into semi conductors and believe me, the day Nigeria says we are going to go into semi conductors, you will see that the attention of all the world will be on Nigeria because we cannot be stopped at that time any more. It is either they support us or they are like we don’t want these people to have this because if we have this, there is nothing that we cannot produce. All those fighter jets, all those sophisticated weapons, they are powered by semi conductors. So for instance now, let me go to the world of politics again; for Nigeria to partner with China, US will rather say we are going to support you with technology.  That is what the US is doing with India. This can take us hours if I should explain more and more. So the future of Amal Technology is in going to semi-conductors because at the end of the day everything goes back to that and that is where the real economy is. Let me give you example. I remember during the past government, they were trying to attract Elon Musk to come and start producing some of these things in Nigeria and he was not interested and he just wants to pick some of our raw materials instead. But now, I am glad with what is currently happening. We now have many multiple processing plants for lithium batteries. But again, if Nigeria was doing one of two things in semi-conductors, it’s easy to attract investors like Elon Musk, Amazon among others. They will come because they want cheap labour, they want where they can have raw materials and all those kind of policies. Even the US they have a Chip Act because of the China wars and they want to bring back manufacturing to the US. They passed a policy of the Chip Act and a subsidy. If you want to set up now a semi-conductor in the US… I think it was Intel that was given about 10 billion dollars in grant, that’s subsidy. Subsidy to produce chips locally because they want to bring back manufacturing here. 10 billion dollars. It shows you the important of semi-conductors and that is our main goal.

Realnews: When you say that we have the raw materials, which raw materials are you talking about?

Tijjani: I mentioned silicon sand, germinium. Like this mobile phone you are seeing here (displays a mobile phone) was produced from silicon sand. All you need to do is get the equipment and technology.

Realnews: Where do we have those sand?

Tijjani: We have them almost everywhere in Nigeria. You know Nigeria is a blessed country. All you need is the necessary equipment to process it and the partnership and you are good to go. We already have partners that are designers and are Nigerians. They design chips and all so the remaining thing is just the fabrication of it. Do you know how much that will be to be able to produce the chips of ATMs locally.

For instance, POS is being sold or imported into Nigeria, this type of POS, I am sure goes for about N130,000, N200,000, depending. If you produce the chips locally, you should be able to sell POS for at least 30 dollars and that is around N50,000. I am talking about high end android. So that is why you see that even our meters are cheap compared to the normal price. For instance, if NERC regulates the price for let’s say N80,000 that means we can sell it at N65,000. We still import the chips, but every other thing is produced here.

Realnews: So how much does it cost to set up this your facility when you started?

Tijjani: The total cost is a lot actually. You know, I told you it’s a partnership. It is a 60/40 project between Amal and NCDMB. We brought in 60% and they bring in 40%. And you know for NCDMB, they already achieved what they want which is to see a local company that is able to break through into this technological space.

Realnews: Are you making profit?

Tijjani: We just started selling because the place was commissioned last year December.

Realnews: So you just started commercialising and have not started paying dividends. Are you suppose to pay back dividends to the NCDMB?

Tijjani: Of course, we are supposed to pay back dividends so that they will be able to support other companies.

Realnews: Yours is like the first in the R & D?

Tijjjani: Yes, but of course they have other interventions, and they have all these trainings. You can find out from them.

Realnews: How many years did this take, you said since 2018?

Tijjani: Yes, but we did not sign until 2021. I told you they take their time before they do anything. I have confidence in them. They know what they are doing, to be honest with you, NCDMB for me are the best and number 1 agency in the entire Nigeria. They are not business as usual. Let me tell you a funny thing, (I swear to almighty god, I did not know anyone of them.) I got to know them in the process of this project. Both the former ES (executive secretary) and even this new ES that is here, they believe in value. I only saw the former ES one on one I think two to three times that was the only time I saw him and the first time was when I was presented to the R&D council because he was part of it. The second time was after all the approvals and everything, the back and forth. I saw him again during signing. The last time I saw him was last year when he came to inspect the project and he was really happy. I tell people, I didn’t know engineer Simbi from know where. I didn’t want to mention this but I swear to god I had never met him anywhere. This is somebody front South South and I am from the North. But he believes that this is going to make sense and you have seen products and have listened to me now. Wouldn’t you want to support me? Do you know how many big companies have come here and are wowed. They are always shocked when they enter the factory.

Realnews: So what are you doing because you can’t be producing without letting the public also know what you are doing. You also have to have some kind of campaign to brand your market and to let the world know what you are doing.

Tijjani: You know members of the Africa Organisation for Standardization. So about 10 countries were in attendance. In fact they are going to do another one this year. And guess what, we are in communication with them. They bought our devices. They took it back to their countries. South Africa came here, the next thing they said was we want to partner with you; the body itself. They bought our devices and that’s why I told you that we have some devices in the US, we have in Ghana, we have some in Kenya, Uganda.

Realnews: How many countries as a whole.?

Tijjani: As a whole we have US, Uganda, Ghana, South Africa, Kenya, Chad, Senegal, Tunisia, that’s eight countries right now where our devices have been installed by these people.

Realnews: That’s interesting. Maybe you’ll have to cover the whole 54 African countries very soon.

Tijjani: They talked about the AfCTA. They said that they want to partner with us to be able to do the training. They want to bring in their people and then the company, so that we will be able to do technology transfer and we told that we are open to it. The same thing with APPO as well, they talked about that and want to facilitate the training so that we will be able to sell our products. So yeah, I think that if the honorable minister was able to attend the inauguration in person, I think his views would have been totally different at least for Amal Technologies because what we are doing. We are not only just breaking barriers, we are pace setters. We are the leader in the industry. The lady that came here, (I will share the pictures with you) they call Amal Tech the fastest growing electronics company in Africa and even hinted partnering with Amal Tech to set up a standard for a tech manufacturing space in Nigeria. So I think this is enough for us at our age and everything that we already get to be changing lives, adding values. So that’s what we do, we do not really care about the media thing.

Realnews: Thank you very much for granting me audience. Can we go to see the production.?

A.I

Oct. 16. 2024

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Over 300 Youths benefit as NLNG begins Nigerian Content HCD Trainings

NLNG, on Tuesday, in Port Harcourt, Rivers State, kicked off its Nigerian Content Human Capacity Development (NC-HCD) Basic Training Programme...

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Awards for Shell, staff at NAPE 2024 conference

…as SNEPCo MD pledges sustained efforts towards energy security SHELL companies in Nigeria and staff won awards in recognition of...

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TotalEnergies, bp, Equinor, Shell join forces to help increase access to energy

TOTALENERGIES, bp, Equinor and Shell announce a commitment to invest in support of the UN Sustainable Development Goal 7, UN...

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